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There have been so many VRAY delays I'd lost my enthusiasm. Today my interest got re-ignited.by two things.

First this video, which shows an exterior and an interior render: And perhaps even more shocking was the tweet of well-respected Tim Clapham, who said this of an VRAYforC4D IPR preview, 'works on CUDA, OpenCL with CPU fallback and it is very good.' He also tweeted to Casey Hupke, 'I'm already using it in production.' There are some other demo clips that only beta testers can see. I don't have the time to confirm the OpenCL claims.this seems at odds with what we'd heard before. I don't know what it all means and I'm a PC CUDA guy now so I won't be researching it. Just throwing this out there. Alas: still in beta.

Good news is that public beta is available. Beta users are for the most part.really stoked.and in a bit of a frenzy.

Personally, I find it nothing short of scandalous that the last release of VRay (1.9) was released 19 months ago. Maybe there is some sort of pattern they're working to: 1.9 was 19 months ago so maybe version 2 will take 20 months and version 3 will take 30. It's been in supposed Beta for months and months. What are they playing? I love VRay but I've become disillusioned with its development and have started looking at Corona (which is really nice) and Arnold (which is difficult for my tiny brain) although its development is rapid, they must release an update every few days.

I'm sure I'll retake a look at VRay when something does finally happen but for now it's at the back of my mind. New beta is a big step forwards, there's an awful lot to like in the new release. Progressive mode is such a time saver, and the simplified settings (almost Arnold-like, there's basically one or two settings to change between rough preview and final quality render) will answer a lot of the usual VRay complaints. One thing: OpenCL support doesn't necessarily mean OS X support. The last I heard ChaosGroup says Apple's openCL drivers are lacking in important functions, similarly to Otoy's complaints. No big surprises here, if you like GPU then you can ignore Apple for now. Luckily the CPU/progressive combo is very usable, looking forward to the official release too.

Yes thats also the same for Maya or Modo osx V-Rays (CG says apple lacks some important parts in their Cl implementation it seems) for c4d shader use on DR, v3.3 supports teamrender still image mode which supports all c4d shaders. An external standalone render app can never render internal c4d shaders, that is is in no other app possible either. The pure c4d bitmap though renders native in 3.3 standalone (converted on the fly to a vraybitmap without measurable speed loss) each customer can have the v3.3 already now (see the forum on the wip beta access, the last 3,3 was released yesterday, in 1-2 weeks i guess with the new denoiser then a new) p.s.: here is RT cpu in action, a 1gb c4d file, 23 millon polygons: here is RT gpu in action, same file: https://vimeo.com/169657962. What's scandalous is stamping your feet because software doesn't come fast enough. Software is hard. We are all spoiled and can lose perspective.

I'll share a very brief anecdote. I develop database solutions for small business.

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A peer in my industry told me, 'Don't ever give a client a fixed bid on a project that you haven't done before.' In other words if the parameters and dynamics are completely new to you.how can you possibly estimate how long it will take? The developers of VRAY, Arnold or Octane don't have a cookbook.or a template.or blueprints. They are figuring things out as they go along.sailing into virgin waters.

Time estimation with such things is like asking Christopher Columbus: 'How many days will it take for you to discover the new world.' With Stefan's team this uncertainty gets doubled. The C4d VRAY team must wait on code from Chaos Group.which is totally out of its control. All of these programmers at Maxon or Otoy or VRAY or Arnold, iRay etc.are performing Herculean mental tasks. We owe them a lot! All of these programmers at Maxon or Otoy or VRAY or Arnold, iRay etc.are performing Herculean mental tasks. We owe them a lot!

Would add even smaller plugin developers to this list, too. How many of us hasn't benefitted tremendously from the tools from people like Lazaros (Nitroman) & Paul (tools4d), and so on? Lucky duckies. Back in early 2013 I was setting up my studio. Half dozen seats, brand new environment & hardware, and software choices were all up to me. I chose the Cinema/AE solution for various (good) reasons, and then added Vray.

I chose to add Vray knowing that the future would be about GPU rendering, and that it would be coming to Vray, and we had lots of GPUs available. Since we were trying to do 8K squareframe renders, speed & flexibility GPU rendering offered was valuable to us. Fujitsu siemens driver.

So I know something about waiting for a particular feature you really really want. But we've also made excellent use of Vray since then, and don't regret one bit having chosen something in 2013 that is just now coming to fruition. We're all blessed with lots of great tools, and huge amounts of work by real people went into those tools. I (try hard to) remember that when I get impatient or annoyed that something doesn't work. Did some testing today, scene that is taking 11.5 min on 1.9, renders in 3.5 min same LC settings & scene in beta 3.3 rt is super fast & interactive Nice.

Having thought this through a little more I think partially my understanding of how these IPRs work and what their limitations are, were skewed. Even though it's interactive these all appear to be frame-by-frame demos.

I'm guessing you can't select a range of frames to run in the timeline and then move the viewport around and have that work in the IPR. It would just render the first frame of the range only, wouldn't it? Having thought this through a little more I think partially my understanding of how these IPRs work and what their limitations are, were skewed.

Even though it's interactive these all appear to be frame-by-frame demos. I'm guessing you can't select a range of frames to run in the timeline and then move the viewport around and have that work in the IPR. It would just render the first frame of the range only, wouldn't it? The closest you could do is to set up a progressive render, with a time limit on how long each frame has to render. But that still wouldn't let you wait longer/longer/longer to get a cleaner image sequence. IPR is really meant for fast look dev. The closest you could do is to set up a progressive render, with a time limit on how long each frame has to render.

But that still wouldn't let you wait longer/longer/longer to get a cleaner image sequence. IPR is really meant for fast look dev. Fast look dev for still images, right? It makes perfect sense.

I had it in my head from some older thread or bit of marketing I saw on Otoy's site, that where C4D's viewport falls short with previewing complex particle systems, one of these new IPRs could fill a gap. That there would be a mode or setting for it, but once I really thought it through relative to all the demos I saw recently, the lightbulb went off. Haha Not that it's not still hugely useful (it is - everyone has some serious modeling to do regardless of workflow type). Just a bummer to realize I had tricked myself into thinking IPR would be a solution for particle previewing, should no changes come to C4D's viewport. I think my only hope there if the viewport remains unchanged is moving to PC. I guess in the sense that you could rapid preview an early frame, scroll forward several frames, preview again, scroll to the end frame, preview again you could still get a good idea of what the system would look like when fully rendered.

But still not the same as a rapid viewport preview in HQ. Ipr is for fast look, RT cpu or gpu can be also used for production rendering, also animations of course. RT can also render on the picture viewer(not only IPR).scratches head.: curious: To the first part, right I get that. Final rendering of stills or animations. What I was driving at is the rapid previewing features don't really work with animations. All the demos for all the products with IPR and RT, show single frame examples. Usually complex models with complex texturing (which I get why they do that — that's what most people want).

Or are you saying V-Ray 3.x will add an enhancement to the C4D Picture Viewer where I could start building a particle system with all of its emitters and generators, then as I modify various parameters I could jump over to the Picture Viewer and rapidy preview 60 or 90 frames worth, and have the ability to evaluate the as-is look of the system, then jump back and make adjustments, then repeat until I like the look at which point I can setup a final render? In my original quesiton a few days ago that's what I was hoping for, was a quick demo video to seeing how V-Ray can help people who get bogged down trying to preview big particle systems in C4D.

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Rapid look development is important there because there are so many variables that need tweaking and C4D's native viewport and tools are pretty slow in this respect (no matter how much you 'optimize' them). On a Mac anyway. Probably less painful on a PC. Does the RT enhancement of Picture Viewer leverage multiple CPUs on the Mac side?